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  Jamica JW's Spend $1 million Cleaning up Stadium

  by kwr in

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  us$35m trelawny stadium not being maintained.

  jehovah's witnesses forced to spend $1m on clean-up after renting facilitykeril wright, business observer staff reporter.

  wednesday, july 04, 2007. http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/business/html/20070703t230000-0500_124968_obs_us___m_trelawny_stadium_not_being_maintained.asp.

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  I suppose Brooklyn will make them pay the $1M back with interest!
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  PRINCE PERFUME 'smell the truth'

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
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  revelations perfume smell the truth3121 reasons to pick up prince's scentcomment.

  usa today - 1 hour ago.

  the jehovah's witness convert "was intrigued by our name," couey says.

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  Interesting that they don't hall his butt into a JC like they would us common folk! I've read the threads where Brooklyn was called, but has anyone heard on any statements from Brooklyn?
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  Just got invited to DC (I think)

  by moomanchu in

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  july 4 10:00 am doorbell rings.. i'm on the hopper wife is reading a book drinking coffee.. "what the heck is that neighbor kid doing over here already" says wife as she opens door.. "good morning how are yoooouuuuuu?

  wife "no thanks we used to be jw's.".

  wife "no".

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  JW "oh really what happened did you get hurt?"

  That's an odd question. Were they trying to find out if you were "stumbled"? If so, I've never heard it phrased that way. What do they think you would say? "Sister Rude hurt my feelings and now I can't bring myself to go into another Kingdom Hall again".
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  Talk about a lazy way to go in field seervice!

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i am at home by myself.

  my active jw wife is in town.. i hear an engine running out front and peek through a window.

  some car i don't recognise.

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  Congratulations Snakes! I'm sure you are enjoying all your extra time without going soliciting door to door.

  I didn't get an invite for the DC. But I got my personal copy of the False Religion tract in the mail. I'm glad so much effort was put into saving my life!
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  Non-JW mom wonders about meetings.....

  by lavendar in

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  2. friends

  hi ya,.

  was wondering about the meetings.

  i believe i read somewhere that there are 5 meetings per week at the khs.

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  38 Years

  It's great that you are checking this out to help your son. This is an international cult. The following are practices all over the world. Everyone here can verify that the following list is true. Some are disfellowhipping offenses the first time. Some, over time, will be used against you so you can be disfellowshipped:

  Become a Jehovah's Witness and you can't...Celebrate Mother's Day
  Celebrate Father's Day
  Celebrate Grandparent's Day
  Celebrate Birthdays
  Celebrate Thanksgiving
  Celebrate New Year's Eve or Day
  Celebrate Christmas
  Celebrate Halloween
  Celebrate Easter
  Celebrate Flag Day
  Celebrate Independence Day (Fourth of July)
  Celebrate Hanukkah
  Celebrate St. Patrick's Day
  Celebrate Valentine's Day
  Celebrate "Any" Holiday
  Sing any Holiday Songs
  Eat Turkey on Thanksgiving
  Create Holiday artwork in school
  Join the Boy Scouts
  Join the Girl Scouts
  Buy Girl Scout Cookies
  Become a Cheerleader
  Attend class reunions (No "Worldly" association)
  Go to the school prom
  Play School Sports (No competition allowed)
  Play Professional Sports
  Join any organization that has ties to Christianity
  Shop at the Salvation Army
  Volunteer for the Salvation Army
  Donate to Relief Organizations like the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Charities and more
  Shop at Church run thrift stores
  Shop at Church Garage Sales
  Shop at any Store that has Christian ties
  Contribute to the Red Cross
  Attend a Church School
  Join the YMCA
  Join the Military
  Become a Police Officer
  Attend Alcoholics Anonymous
  Have any job with a gun
  Strike against a Company
  Salute the Flag
  Can't Stand at Public Events while others are Standing to salute the Flag
  Sing the National Anthem
  Go to War
  Wear Clothing Associated with War; e.g. Combats or Army Tops
  Learn karate
  Vote (Conscience matter now to please Governments, you will be ostracized if you do)
  Run for any Public Office
  Campaign for a Candidate
  Contribute to the Presidential Campaign Fund on your tax return
  Can join union, but not participate in its affairs
  Run for class president
  Join Sororities or Fraternities
  Participate in holiday parties at school
  Buy lottery tickets
  Gamble
  Play Bingo
  Can't buy a raffle ticket
  Date without supervision - young or old
  Watch R rated movies
  Cannot work on another Church if it's a regular customer
  Own a religious picture or statue
  Smoke cigarettes, pipes or a cigars
  Sell cigarettes, pipes or a cigars
  Accept Blood
  Donate Blood
  Store your own blood before an operation
  Wear blue jeans or casual clothes to the Kingdom Hall
  Wear pants to the Kingdom Hall if you are a female
  Wear skirts or dresses that are above the knee at any time
  Wear any type of long hair if you are a man
  Wear a beard in some Kingdom Halls and areas (judged hard)
  Pierce ears if male, other body parts if female
  Have any tattoos
  Say curse words
  Can't be hypnotized
  Get divorced unless scriptural (adultery or fornication is committed by one partner) if you do divorce cannot remarry unless ex fornicates first
  Toast drinks (pagan origin)
  Throw rice at a wedding (pagan origin)
  Say "Bless You" when someone sneezes
  Say "Good Luck!", "Wish me Luck", "I was Lucky" or "You were Lucky"
  Tell ghost stories
  Practice Yoga
  Own a Smurf
  Eat Lucky Charms Cereal (References to Magical)
  Throw a penny into a wishing well
  Read Horoscopes
  Promote anything Superstitious
  Have wind charms because they represent a pagan symbol for scaring away demons
  Watch TV shows, "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch", "Touched by an Angel", or "Bewitched"
  Say "It was fate" or mention anything to do with "fate"
  Engage in any risky acts such as: Sky Diving, Bungie Jumping & Hang Gliding
  Have Jesus as your Mediator and Savior
  Can't partake in the Memorial of Jesus' death, by eating the unleavened bread or drinking the
  wine; only allowed if you are from the elite group of the 144,000 (which cannot be proved - or disproved)
  A woman can't hold a position of responsibility in the congregation
  Wear or own a Cross
  Attend another Church (Spiritual Fornication)
  Associate on a regular basis with nonbelievers
  Associate with ex-members
  Associate with disfellowshipped ones
  Talk with disfellowshipped ones
  Sue another Jehovah's Witness
  Marry a nonbeliever (If you do, you are judged hard by the congregation)
  Marry in another Church or attend a wedding in another Church
  Have a funeral in another Church or attend a funeral in another Church
  Pray, including holding your head down, when a nonbeliever prays
  Study other religious articles not from the Society
  Read negative information about the Society
  Question the Watchtower Society on anything - even if you KNOW they are wrong!
  Exercise your own conscience if it goes against the religion
  Have Christian freedom
  If you are a woman you can't pray aloud in the presence of men, without a covering on your head
  If you are sick and need alternative medical help you can't get illegal medicines from another country
  
  
  Become a Jehovah's Witness and you shouldn't....
  .... if you do you will be looked down upon and won't be able to "advance" spiritually
  
  Discuss politics
  Surf too much on the Internet
  Attend social functions organized by your place of work
  Associate with worldly neighbors
  Attend College (The Society has lightened up on this somewhat, but if you attend you are not putting Kingdom interests first, and will be judged.)
  Play Chess
  Go to Nightclubs
  Own a Gun
  Read philosophy, sociology, psychology; these are discouraged as non spiritual food
  JWs are discouraged from seeking psychological help from psychiatrists, psycho-therapists, and psychologists because they give "worldly" advice according to the WTBTS.
  
  Become a Jehovah's Witness and you ABSOLUTELY have to....(to avoid ostracism)
  Must be baptized into the organization
  Attend several regular meetings each week
  Go out in field service regularly to recruit new members
  Report your field service activity to the congregation each month
  Attend regular scheduled conventions
  Give talks at the congregation (whether young or old, male or female)
  Read and fully understand their teachings
  Prepare for each meeting
  Participate in the meetings
  Study with family
  Use Theocratic Warfare (War Strategy) - To lie or to hide the truth to a non-JW for protection of the Organization
  Fully accept the Watchtower's authority and rules (no exceptions)
  Dress according to their rules at the Kingdom Halls, Service and conventions (no exceptions)
  Women and small girls must wear dresses
  Men must wear dress pants with dress shirts and ties
  Associate only with fellow members
  Report on fellow members including your family, if they are caught doing something against Society's rules
  You have to sing at the meetings (even if you have a bad voice) - or you are looked down upon
  Women must be in full submission to their husbands

  From: http://www.jwfiles.com/jw-cant.htm

  Btw, no one was more surprised than me to find out that The Smurfs are linked to demons in Kingdom Halls all over the world. I thought it was just a crazy couple in my congregation that had demonized Smurfs! They said one flew around their daughter's room and attacked the husband. And yes, when I was growing up, my Mom would not let us eat Lucky Charms cereal!
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  I WAS THINKING WHICH CAN BE DANGEROUS...........

  by juni in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was first contacted by the jws in 1968 when i was pg w/our first son.

  i bought the little blue book "the truth that leads to everlasting life" for 25 cents.

  found it interesting, but put it away because i was busy after our son's birth and i didn't think my husband would want to get into religious material as we had left the methodist church because they were always crying for $.. jump ahead to 1970. husband was home which was unusual because he normally worked saturdays.

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  Even though I was very unhappy in the Borg, I still kept pushing myself. But the first thing that really started me thinking was when there were several Watchtower articles almost every week that would mention Rutherford's imprisonment with the seven other men and how this fulfilled Bible prophecy. I believe it was in the 80's, but I can't remember. I'm sure I had heard this before, but maybe because I had gotten older and not a kid anymore, all of a sudden it made me raise my eyebrows . I just did a little research and here is what I found to jog my memory:

  November 1, 1993, Watchtower (pages 11-12) applies the 1260 days*, 1290 days, and 1335 days of Daniel 12:7, 11-12 to the date Rutherford was sentenced to prison, the date he spoke at the convention in Ohio, and the date a book he wrote was released.

  The organization has been fairly consistent in identifying the 1260 days of Revelation 11:3 as the same period mentioned at Daniel 12:7, but it has flip-flopped several times on the dates when that period began and ended. Still, it persists in perpetuating Judge Rutherford's egocentric interpretation of the prophecies as applying to himself and his close associates.

  So I remember that after each Watchtower study, I would mention to my JW sister, why are they harping on this week, after week? Are they building up to something? They are linking scriptures to Rutherford's imprisonment and release! How could these "men" think that they are fullfilling Bible prophecy? It's one thing to be teaching the Bible. It's another thing to think you are have been prophesied about in the Hebrew Scriptures! This really turned on my thinking cap to start doubting Brooklyn. If I had the internet during those weeks, I probably would have started doing some searches.

  So I just found a page in the Daniel book, which I never read, that gives a little more detail: http://www.cftf.com/daniel/daniel/D296-1260days.htm

  This is a good topic. I hadn't thought about this in a long time. Thanks!
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  What's your take on "stumbling"...

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the phrase "cause for stumbling" often left me bewildered.

  tell you what to do counsel you and impose their own opinions on you.

  maybe i did something in the past that "stumbled" someone, but aren't we all able to make our own decisions when it comes to conduct and choices ... at least we should be, especially if it isn't regarding something inherently wrong.

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  I would hate it when someone would say something like, "I don't want to stumble you". I would immediately tell them they couldn't. I also hated it when the rude brothers and sisters in the congo did and said whatever they wanted, but you couldn't tell them off because it might "stumble" them. If they were hurting others, "they were accountable for it". So you'd just have to watch humbler brothers and sisters get trampled by them. "Keep peace in the congregation", they'd always say.
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  Update on my Dad

  by ex-nj-jw in

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  2. experiences

  dad had a heart attack and stroke on friday.

  they actually think the stroke started on wednesday or thursday, very mild and escalated on friday.

  the doctors have wanted to place a pacemaker and internal def.

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  Thanks for letting us know. My prayers and thoughts are with you and your family.

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  Did anyone here ever make the truth their own?

  by slimboyfat in

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  only encouraging comments please.

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  slim.

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  I did for the first 10 years, (10 years old to 20 years old). I really thought I was in the best place to worship God. By the time I turned 20, I felt like a failure and struggled with this for 28 more years.
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  What do you think the JWs will be doing on the 4th of July?

  by Blindbutnowisee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tomorrow i plan on sleeping in late and then go to a cookout.

  during a day where it seems that most people will be in the yards cooking on the grill, i wonder if more jws will go out in service; and if offered a hotdog will they accept it?.

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  Same as you doing barbeque and having friends over, they just won't call it 4th of July but "opportunity to get together" same as for Christmas or any other holiday

  And on Thanksgiving too (because the turkeys are on sale)